Just saw this on HWZ, indeed shocking!
Posted by winson2222
Saw this link somewhere. An alternate view to this shocking incident. You draw your own conclusion.
http://www.straitstimes.com/Breaking…ry_345743.html
I am one of David Hartanto’s close friend and I am here to give you
some facts, assumptions, possibilities about this caseFacts:
1. Lok Tat Seng: Dean of Student of NTU gathered all Indonesian students in
International Student Center on evening after incident and
he just said there was witness on the spot who saw David’s body lying on the ground,
dead. Dean did not said that witness saw David jumped from balcony.
And that is, according to him, all he has saw.2. The only official statement from police is: David was found dead at
the crime scene, they did not mention whether he commited suicide.The link: http://www.straitstimes.com/STI/STIM…20at%20NTU.pdf
They also just mention ‘The professor was believed to be stabbed’. The police
did not say that ‘the professor was stabbed’. Where this assumption come from? Why
they did not say about it?3. I and some Indonesian students gather tonight, 3 March 2009, at 8 pm,
at International Student Center and talked to David’s parent.
They have seen his body. There was NO WOUND whatsoever on his wrists
and police also has confirmed it.
I assumed that his parent would not lie it means that all media news about
‘David slashed his wrist’ was FAKE.4. The wounds found on David’s body, according to his parents,
were on his head (It is assumed due to fall injury),
and slash wound on his neck. The wound on his neck is very suspicious, in
my opinion. How he received that wound?? Again, according to his parent,
police guessed that it may be happened when the bottom part of his head smashed
the ground. In that case, his chin will have broken and it did not.
My question is: WHERE DOES THAT SLASH WOUND ON HIS NECK CAME FROM?Assumptions:
1. David stabbed professor. How did you know? The crime scene is closed room,
only David and that professor. No one see what has happened.
Eye-witness only saw David run out from that room.2. David commited suicide. How could someone who commited suicide drop himself
into glassed roof, instead of directly drop himself to ground.3. David slashed his wrist. I do not know where this news came from…
4. David’s motivation.
4.1. He pissed off since his prof did not give satisfactory grade
The grade has not been released and he even has not submitted the report.
It is also NTu policy not to inform the student about the grade which they got
before release of the result.4.2. He has mental problem
No record in Student Counselling Centre about his attendance. For bright student
as him, I did not believe that he did not attend counseling if he has some
problems. Also, he still brought bag with usual daily stuff, on incident day,
such as drink bottle, towel, etc. If David planned to kill someone why would
he prepare to bring such things. It is easier for him to just bring one knife
and stab his prof on spot.4.3. He pissed off because his scholarship has been revoked
I knew David since I was his roommate for 2 consecutive
years during Mathematical Olympiad training camp. He almost did not
qualify for IMO, only managed to get at 14th rank from 15 people selected.
He still joked and laughed to me at that time. He also did not get anything
from IMO and still fine, not seemed depressed whatsoever, and according to his
parents, he said ‘At least, I managed to represent Indonesia at IMO’
He also still play Hammerfall game in Facebook at 2 am on the incident day. My friend
saw his Facebook account online. How come
a murderer played game in the night before incident? If I was him,
I will seriously think how would I prepare myself tomorrowPossibilities:
1. Professor attacked David. I deduced this thing for several key points.
According to many reports, David’s cloth was soaked on blood. If the blood is
the result from slashing his wrist, it should not soak his cloth since wrist is
far from body. If the wound is from neck, it is easier.2. David tried to run from Professor. After he realized that he was attacked,
he resisted and run from that room, with wound on his neck.3. David falled because of unconsciousness. He became panic and probably lose
his common sense because of terrible bleeding, drop himself down into glassed roof
to escape from his Professor.I am responsible for what I have written here, and contact me at kaminari.no.me@gmail.com
if you need any clarification.
Now that I think of it, if David and Prof Chan were just having a normal talking session when David stab the Prof, the stab wound wouldn’t be at the back. It is a physical impossibility, unless David hug the professor and do a backstab. There must be a struggle (as seen from photos released by Straits Times), and in the process David may be badly injured (Not altogether Prof Chan’s fault, David may have injured himself or Prof Chan may have acted out of self defence), lose alot of blood, run out to the place he was seen before his death thinking the Professor would not be able to go there and then black out or something, leading him to fall to his death. Notice the media uses “falls” instead of “jumps”. Then again, that neck wound maybe is David’s friends see wrongly, because they are just normal people not trained in recognizing wounds, or the wound may be caused by cut he obtain during the fall.
I also think that the fact that Prof Chan’s fingers injuries shows that he did try to grab for the knife from David.
Well it is all assumptions at this point, please take my speculations with a pinch of salt.
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which version better?
1. prof. stabbed david on the throat and then david tried to defence and stabbed him at the back and then he ran away for help.
2. david stabbed prof. by the back, prof pulled knife from the back of his back and then stabbed david on the throat.
aiyo typo. i meant *deffense
i seriously think the writer of this post makes broad sweeping statements. As investigations are still going on, the police is not in the position to use affirming words, as it would make it seem like it is official. Thus, they have to use words like “believed” and “falls”.
The part abt him slashing his wrists was out in the press, barely hours after the incident. And thus, the press could have gotten inaccurate information, such as accounts of those who saw the body at the foot of the block.
A few days into the incident, the police and school have not commented further. With regards to the possibility that David might be mentally unstable, well. it cannot be verified now that he is no longer around. Usually, an affected person is unaware of his condition and may not have sought timely help.
His friends have also said that he became withdrawn and could not get anything out of him despite their offers to listen. Perhaps, he misintpreted the scholarship decision to be that of the Professor.
At the end of the day, may he find peace in a better place. (:
Singaporean police will do everything to cover up the truth. Because if it is true that the professor is guilty in this case, this will give a very huge negative impact on NTU(one of the largest and profound university in singapore), and therefore the country of Singapore itself.
David suppossed to have a bright future. But now that future dissapear, ended as ash and he got a new titel as “NTU stabbing”
As a father of 2 kids, deep in Prof. Chan Kap Luk’s heart should know the feeling if the tragedy of David’s happens in his family especially on his 2 kids
So I think Prof Chan Kap Luk should tell the truth “what happen on that day?” If not, he will have his own karma, because one day he should responsible it to the God.
May you rest in peace now, David ……………………………..
why would such a bright student decide to kill just because he doesnt get a scholarship, which he probably already knew since the very first moment because you see that it was said that he only rank 14 from 15 people..and scholarship is limited. not even half of the student get it,it’ll only be given to few student.he already knew it,the consequences and everything. and what became so clear is that wound on his neck, i mean for god sake who would hurt them self especially on the neck when he was about to kill himself..he torture himself before he died?why dont he just drop himself instead and die directly but to torture himself first?? my my..police..please do think twice!!
we may be not as smart as you people..but hello..face it, aint no person that crazy!
I agree with the writer..
I just thought that a good school, doesn’t mean it has a good teacher.
I really dissapointed with NTU.. Because they tried to cover this incident.. Have they ever thought what David’s family feel about this??
Really, what a waste, a great student who can become a great person, his life have to be ended like this..
Money and glory can really make people blind..
The one thing I know for sure, I wouldn’t recommend NTU to my friends anymore..
heard rumours that david’s research is something that might caused all these; that the professor is so keen to get hold of it and it all ended with david’s death.
is this true?
One word for Singaporean bureau of investigation: SHAME
Even ordinary citizen knew that:
1. Crime scene should not be cleaned until the police came
2. False information about the victim injuries equal to.. LIES
3. Protect the only suspect equal to.. MANIPULATION
What is Singapore without Indonesians ??
1. Millions of Indonesian invested their $$$$$ millions in Singapore
2. Many Indonesians spend their $$$$$ to study in Singapore
3. How many indonesian’s sand was imported to built Sentosa Island?
4. Many genius Indonesians worked in Singapore
David was killed tragically on 2nd March.. Since then, Singapore did NOTHING to investigate until now. Worstly, they manipulate fact
Whatever Singaporean stand for.. this case is very WRONG
I support David family for demanding JUSTICE; as a basic human right
If you have been living in Indonesia for the past few years, you would probably realise that their hear-say kampung culture (which I am calling it) is very good at distorting facts. I remember some years, they said our prime minister will soon die from cancer and I also heard that hundreds singaporeans died in the tsunami in 2004 when ‘it hit singapore’ and the singapore government is covering that up, the article was written something like above.
Mark my words, this will end up like the flor contemplacion case. Much ado about nothing…..
…It’s easy to hearsay but difficult to prove. If a person, or say a country is runned by hearsay and not facts, it’s not going anywhere.